Comments on: Linux Desktop: How many more years?

By: anon

anon — Mon, 06 Dec 2010 02:24:11 +0000

I’m late :0 but You nailed it bro. I hate the GUI. They just don’t get it.

to quote “Quit your belly aching and do something about it then”.
belly aching, what?

Well, apparently, linux and its distros needs more artists and devs.
Current devs are nice enough for sure, but that doesn’t mean we can’t provide feedback especially reasonable ones like this blogger did. Is linux community supposed to immune to feedbacks?

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:47:51 +0000

Which leads me to another issue with Linux: You’re not allowed to complain about it apparently, especially if you are a developer yourself.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:54:50 +0000

The only problem I have with this ipost is this quiote.
“I have to say that I am a huge fan of Linux. I write code for Linux all day at work (both user interface and back-end code), and I love it. Linux is great.”
Quit your belly aching and do something about it then.

By: nuno pinheiro

nuno pinheiro — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:41:46 +0000

You should give 4.4 a try as soon as it comes out there are many, many improvements, some of the things you mentioned are specific to your distro and not visible in other places…
Other are things we should fix and thanks for pointing them, the cool thing is that you can join us (like you did just now) in the effort to do something better.
Still i think you will be very happy about 4.4, I am :D

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:06:35 +0000

Yeah, some of the Winderz notification icons have left and right clicks corresponding to different context menus. I am most sure I have run across this, maybe in PowerISO and definitely DEAMONtools (sp?).

A cluttered desktop is a small price to pay, considering the *moral* superiority you gain when using Linux…. he he he, j/k

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:20:47 +0000

Hugo,

Thanks for the critiques. May I offer a correction. Mac does indeed have right-click and has for years. The items in the top-of-the-screen menu bar are left- or right-clickable, but they do the same thing.

Nowhere else have I seen a left-click give a context menu and a right-click give a *different* context menu.

–Dave

By: Hugo GEOFFROY

Hugo GEOFFROY — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:19:01 +0000

Hello Dave,

Nice critics, but I have some comments :

For the first problem (font size), I can see a “Adjust All Fonts” button. Isn’t that a solution ?

For your second problem, it’s true that the KDE dialog was awful, but you can try to change the theme/icon theme.

For the Right/(Left) clicking issue : this is not related to KDE/Fedora, this is related to Network Manager. And I think this is the true comportment : right click for settings, left click for management. And you won’t find this in Mac, because there’s no right click :)

For you last issue, I don’t think it’s annoying, and anyway, this is theming stuff.

pistache,

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:12:03 +0000

So why does GNOME’s network manager applet pop up a context menu in response to both left and right mouse clicks? That’s the real crux of the issue. It does not conform to the general convention of context menus.

–Dave

By: Evan Farrer

Evan Farrer — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:57:31 +0000

@Wade
“The left/right complaint is a gnome issue, not kde.

Fedora 11 is shipping gnome’s network manager applet because the kde network manager applet isn’t ready for qt4 yet.”

I’d like to respectfully disagree with this statement. The left/right complaint *is* a kde issue. Apparently kde doesn’t have a network manager applet and so the gnome one is being borrowed to provide that functionality. For a graphical desktop environment to be complete, it needs to provide a graphical way to configure the network, if kde doesn’t have one, so f11 is forced to borrow one from gnome, the blame lies with kde for not providing a good alternative not with gnome, for having their applet borrowed.

I think that the only real way to have Linux be usable is by setting up some minimal keyboard shortcuts and then do everything from the command line. I’ve used WindowMaker, KDE, and GNOME, and as far as I’m concerned they’re all identical. Now I know that they’re really not identical, that they each have different philosophies that guide they’re development, and they all have different features and bugs, but I don’t use any of the fancy features because they don’t seem to help me be more productive. I’ll be right at home using any graphical desktop environment that provides the ability to map the following keyboard shortcuts:
Ctrl-Alt-a – Terminator (a terminal emulator)
Ctrl-Alt-m – Firefox
Alt-# – Switch to desktop #

Anything else really isn’t going to be used by me enough for me to bother fixing a bug or even file a bug report.

By: Kirk

Kirk — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:31:05 +0000

I don’t like KDE either. Mainly because of all the problems described here. But why gripe about Fedora Desktop? (aside from the fact that you are familiar with it) In my opinion Ubuntu is the closest thing you can get to a Linux Desktop, and by default it uses gnome, which is IMHO a better and easier to use desktop environment.