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	<title>Comments on: Free Yourself From Windows Vista</title>
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		<title>By: Taisley</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2009/02/27/free-yourself-from-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-74989</link>
		<dc:creator>Taisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand most of what you post on here- but i do understand this! Mac&#039;s are WAY better and to combat that other guys gripe about the price... My Dell that we had when we were first married went illegitimate less than a year after we bought it. They are still selling the Mac we bought over 3 years ago- today. Talk about holding their value. FYI- when we sold our Dell to get our Mac we could only get like $200 for it- There were already a ton of new versions of Dell out.
Personal favorite thing about Macs- NO INSTALLING AND UNINSTALLING- if i don&#039;t like a program i just downloaded.... click and drag to the trash like real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand most of what you post on here- but i do understand this! Mac&#8217;s are WAY better and to combat that other guys gripe about the price&#8230; My Dell that we had when we were first married went illegitimate less than a year after we bought it. They are still selling the Mac we bought over 3 years ago- today. Talk about holding their value. FYI- when we sold our Dell to get our Mac we could only get like $200 for it- There were already a ton of new versions of Dell out.<br />
Personal favorite thing about Macs- NO INSTALLING AND UNINSTALLING- if i don&#8217;t like a program i just downloaded&#8230;. click and drag to the trash like real life.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2009/02/27/free-yourself-from-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-74876</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I was talking to someone today as they were griping about how Vista kept installing updates, then uninstalling, and then reinstalling them again for no reason. With snoot in my voice I let them know what I use in place of Vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I was talking to someone today as they were griping about how Vista kept installing updates, then uninstalling, and then reinstalling them again for no reason. With snoot in my voice I let them know what I use in place of Vista.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2009/02/27/free-yourself-from-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-74773</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love talking about Apple in public because people get so polarized. :)

Anto: Apple is only design and doesn&#039;t deserve all the success? Are you suggesting that companies who provide poorly designed products deserve more success?

Personally, I&#039;ve never used such a simple and easy-to-use computer, and yet it has all the UNIX features I&#039;ve come to love in Linux. I could list all the great features of my iMac, but I&#039;ll spare you the litany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love talking about Apple in public because people get so polarized. :)</p>
<p>Anto: Apple is only design and doesn&#8217;t deserve all the success? Are you suggesting that companies who provide poorly designed products deserve more success?</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve never used such a simple and easy-to-use computer, and yet it has all the UNIX features I&#8217;ve come to love in Linux. I could list all the great features of my iMac, but I&#8217;ll spare you the litany.</p>
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		<title>By: Anto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacOSX is good.... apple is only design (and it doesn&#039;t deserve all this success).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacOSX is good&#8230;. apple is only design (and it doesn&#8217;t deserve all this success).</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2009/02/27/free-yourself-from-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-74683</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will bend on the Apple OS. I have HEARD it is very stable but I cannot be sure since I do not own an apple and cannot comment on that part. The Macbook is overpriced even for the lowest version. I will agree that the price/performance does match up to like a dell or something similar. For system builders, however, the price tag comes out way lower than the mac equivalent.  I can shop around for the best deals and put it together with what I want. That option does not exist for apple. Like I said, if you have the money and you are going to buy package anyway, buy a mac. It IS better quality hardware and software. I am sure I will own an Imac one day when I have the money to throw around.

With linux, typing into the console is half the fun. But I like control and to solve problems that way. I could see how a lay person would be intimidated. But you have to learn an OS sometime in your life, I just think linux is more worth it. Though if people actually took time to learn their OS  most of you computer folks would be out of a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will bend on the Apple OS. I have HEARD it is very stable but I cannot be sure since I do not own an apple and cannot comment on that part. The Macbook is overpriced even for the lowest version. I will agree that the price/performance does match up to like a dell or something similar. For system builders, however, the price tag comes out way lower than the mac equivalent.  I can shop around for the best deals and put it together with what I want. That option does not exist for apple. Like I said, if you have the money and you are going to buy package anyway, buy a mac. It IS better quality hardware and software. I am sure I will own an Imac one day when I have the money to throw around.</p>
<p>With linux, typing into the console is half the fun. But I like control and to solve problems that way. I could see how a lay person would be intimidated. But you have to learn an OS sometime in your life, I just think linux is more worth it. Though if people actually took time to learn their OS  most of you computer folks would be out of a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk:

I respectfully disagree with all your points.

Number 1, my iMac cost as much as a comparable Dell. Make sure you are comparing apples to apples (no pun intended) for similarly specified computers. Apple hardware tends to be higher end. Similarly marketed Dell computers tend to be lower performers.

Number 2, I assume you are talking about the hardware here, because the Darwin kernel is a BSD derivative, and I can install and run all kinds of open source, non-proprietary software. Out of the box, I  have a functional terminal and development environment. Can&#039;t say the same for Windows. As for other hardware, it&#039;s true, you can only buy Apple branded computers to run Apple&#039;s OS on (legally anyway). The truth is, though, that part of Windows instability is because of all the crappy third party hardware it has to run on.

I&#039;ve been using Linux for the past 8 years. I have to say. Linux usability stinks. I&#039;ve been wanting to migrate my family and friends to Linux for a long time, and every year I think, &quot;this will finally be the year.&quot; About 2 years ago, I finally gave up. The Linux community can&#039;t seem to really gel around a particular desktop long enough to iron out all the usability quirks. They keep abandoning frameworks instead of polishing the existing stuff to the point that it&#039;s usable by lay people. It seems that every year there&#039;s some new inter-process communication standard that requires a whole slew of software rewriting (dbus, anyone?).

When I install Linux on a new desktop or laptop, I try to see how long I can go without having to type anything on the command line. I&#039;ve never made it a whole day on a new computer without having to break out the terminal. That, for my non-technical family and friends, is unfortunately unacceptable.

Nothing against the command line. I love it, but I wouldn&#039;t make my mom do it. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk:</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree with all your points.</p>
<p>Number 1, my iMac cost as much as a comparable Dell. Make sure you are comparing apples to apples (no pun intended) for similarly specified computers. Apple hardware tends to be higher end. Similarly marketed Dell computers tend to be lower performers.</p>
<p>Number 2, I assume you are talking about the hardware here, because the Darwin kernel is a BSD derivative, and I can install and run all kinds of open source, non-proprietary software. Out of the box, I  have a functional terminal and development environment. Can&#8217;t say the same for Windows. As for other hardware, it&#8217;s true, you can only buy Apple branded computers to run Apple&#8217;s OS on (legally anyway). The truth is, though, that part of Windows instability is because of all the crappy third party hardware it has to run on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using Linux for the past 8 years. I have to say. Linux usability stinks. I&#8217;ve been wanting to migrate my family and friends to Linux for a long time, and every year I think, &#8220;this will finally be the year.&#8221; About 2 years ago, I finally gave up. The Linux community can&#8217;t seem to really gel around a particular desktop long enough to iron out all the usability quirks. They keep abandoning frameworks instead of polishing the existing stuff to the point that it&#8217;s usable by lay people. It seems that every year there&#8217;s some new inter-process communication standard that requires a whole slew of software rewriting (dbus, anyone?).</p>
<p>When I install Linux on a new desktop or laptop, I try to see how long I can go without having to type anything on the command line. I&#8217;ve never made it a whole day on a new computer without having to break out the terminal. That, for my non-technical family and friends, is unfortunately unacceptable.</p>
<p>Nothing against the command line. I love it, but I wouldn&#8217;t make my mom do it. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2009/02/27/free-yourself-from-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-74589</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! Someone besides your family reads your blog. I have some gripes about Macs and yes all my trendy friends have one. 
1) The cost. Already covered but worth mentioning again. When I can get a laptop that is almost 500$ cheaper than a macbook AND is faster I think I am going with the PC, though I am cheap so it makes sense to me. 
2) The proprietary nature of apple. With this company I can&#039;t pick and choose anything I want OR build from scratch, which I do, a system. Though the parts are quality, I don&#039;t think its fair that I can&#039;t shop around on the free market for what I want. 
3) OK I really don&#039;t have anything substantial besides the no right clicking option.

Bottom line though, if you are just someone who doesn&#039;t know computers very well and money is no object, then by all means buy a Mac. They look cool and are designed to save space. But power users will want something more for cheap and its sad that windows is the only well known OS out there for non Mac systems. What I find most sad, though, is that Ubuntu is much better than vista yet all new PCs come with vista preinstalled. When I picked up my new laptop last summer, after I decided that the macbook was WAAAAY overpriced, I immediately installed Ubuntu and use it 99% of the time. Windows needs to rethink their approach to software and all you windows users out there, learn Linux (Ubuntu preferably) you will thank yourself later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! Someone besides your family reads your blog. I have some gripes about Macs and yes all my trendy friends have one.<br />
1) The cost. Already covered but worth mentioning again. When I can get a laptop that is almost 500$ cheaper than a macbook AND is faster I think I am going with the PC, though I am cheap so it makes sense to me.<br />
2) The proprietary nature of apple. With this company I can&#8217;t pick and choose anything I want OR build from scratch, which I do, a system. Though the parts are quality, I don&#8217;t think its fair that I can&#8217;t shop around on the free market for what I want.<br />
3) OK I really don&#8217;t have anything substantial besides the no right clicking option.</p>
<p>Bottom line though, if you are just someone who doesn&#8217;t know computers very well and money is no object, then by all means buy a Mac. They look cool and are designed to save space. But power users will want something more for cheap and its sad that windows is the only well known OS out there for non Mac systems. What I find most sad, though, is that Ubuntu is much better than vista yet all new PCs come with vista preinstalled. When I picked up my new laptop last summer, after I decided that the macbook was WAAAAY overpriced, I immediately installed Ubuntu and use it 99% of the time. Windows needs to rethink their approach to software and all you windows users out there, learn Linux (Ubuntu preferably) you will thank yourself later.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2009/02/27/free-yourself-from-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-73940</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S., not only is my Mac really cool, but it has a really slick &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.apple.com/keyboard/images/gallery/wired_2_20070807.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;keyboard&lt;/a&gt; that makes a gratifying sound with every keystroke. Mmmm, so gratifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S., not only is my Mac really cool, but it has a really slick <a href="http://images.apple.com/keyboard/images/gallery/wired_2_20070807.jpg" rel="nofollow">keyboard</a> that makes a gratifying sound with every keystroke. Mmmm, so gratifying.</p>
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