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	<title>Comments on: Why Home Equity Loans Are a Bad Idea</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2007/12/15/why-home-equity-loans-are-a-bad-idea/#comment-62716</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny,

I have never personally experienced this but I'm told that the bank will sell the home to settle the debt. If the home doesn't bring enough to pay off the loan balance, they will come after you for the difference.

Bare in mind also that there could be two banks competing for the money: the first bank is the one who gave you the original mortgage, and the second bank is the one who gave you the home equity loan.

Also, just to be clear: This was a home equity loan, and not a home equity line of credit, right?

--Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny,</p>
<p>I have never personally experienced this but I&#8217;m told that the bank will sell the home to settle the debt. If the home doesn&#8217;t bring enough to pay off the loan balance, they will come after you for the difference.</p>
<p>Bare in mind also that there could be two banks competing for the money: the first bank is the one who gave you the original mortgage, and the second bank is the one who gave you the home equity loan.</p>
<p>Also, just to be clear: This was a home equity loan, and not a home equity line of credit, right?</p>
<p>&#8211;Dave</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a  home equity loan some years after moving into a house.  It was foreclosed last year(the house was).

Do I still have to pay back the equity loan on the foreclosed house?  Don't seem like I have to being that they took what the equity loan was tied to.

johnny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a  home equity loan some years after moving into a house.  It was foreclosed last year(the house was).</p>
<p>Do I still have to pay back the equity loan on the foreclosed house?  Don&#8217;t seem like I have to being that they took what the equity loan was tied to.</p>
<p>johnny</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2007/12/15/why-home-equity-loans-are-a-bad-idea/#comment-52987</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,

Does that mean that if you have an emergency, you intend to go into debt to cover it? Is there any particular reason to not save up some cash for an emergency fund instead of leveraging your house?

By the way, congrats for having the discipline to *not* use it. That's more than most Americans can apparently do. Also, just for the sake of others reading this later, this article was not about Home Equity LOC's (Lines of Credit). It was about Home Equity Loans, which obviously you must pay back starting immediately after getting the loan. This is different from an LOC which you only pay back *after* and *if* you spend any of it.

--Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>Does that mean that if you have an emergency, you intend to go into debt to cover it? Is there any particular reason to not save up some cash for an emergency fund instead of leveraging your house?</p>
<p>By the way, congrats for having the discipline to *not* use it. That&#8217;s more than most Americans can apparently do. Also, just for the sake of others reading this later, this article was not about Home Equity LOC&#8217;s (Lines of Credit). It was about Home Equity Loans, which obviously you must pay back starting immediately after getting the loan. This is different from an LOC which you only pay back *after* and *if* you spend any of it.</p>
<p>&#8211;Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2007/12/15/why-home-equity-loans-are-a-bad-idea/#comment-52985</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have had a Home Equity LOC since 2005 and have never used it.
Recently, we canceled the old and got another with a better rate-.51
below prime.

My wife works commission only and it is only there as an emergency
measure so we don't have to cash in some IRA money or sell some
stocks if her market gets sour.

Everything boils down to one thing--discipline.  If you have it, LOC's
are great.  If you don't have it (and you know if you have it or not),
stay away from LOC's, credit cards, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have had a Home Equity LOC since 2005 and have never used it.<br />
Recently, we canceled the old and got another with a better rate-.51<br />
below prime.</p>
<p>My wife works commission only and it is only there as an emergency<br />
measure so we don&#8217;t have to cash in some IRA money or sell some<br />
stocks if her market gets sour.</p>
<p>Everything boils down to one thing&#8211;discipline.  If you have it, LOC&#8217;s<br />
are great.  If you don&#8217;t have it (and you know if you have it or not),<br />
stay away from LOC&#8217;s, credit cards, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Optimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Optimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it so hard to understand why anyone would have a hard time saving in this GREAT country. This by no means is an attack on people who are sufferring through bad debts, it is by all means my lack of insight. Here is how I see things.

I immigrated to this wonderful country about 10 yrs back. I landed here when I was 23 with literally nothing but education. Got my first job and here is the plan I stuck to.

- First thing: Took public transport to save enough money for 6-8 months to buy a car. Bought a nice car with most down and a 5 yr. loan on remainder

- Second thing: Paid off the rest of the car loan in 6-8 months.

- Third thing: Saved for a couple year and bought a house in the country where I come from.

- Fourth thing: Saved for another 3 years and bought a house in a good neighbourhood (best public school, great community, close to all major highways and public transport) which will be enough for my family for next 5-6 years. Took a loan on remainder.

- Fifth thing: Worked my rear off to pay off remainder of the home loan in 3 years.

- Sixth thing: All the this time, I will save money for the next step and use it to purchase something. So, yes there were times when I had less than 1000.00 of total savings. SCARY!!

- Seventh thing: Saved enough to last for 1 year. Kept this money aside and forgot about it. Will never touch it unless there is a real emergency.

- Eight thing: All this time my first home (outside US) has tripled in value. With the rate at which it is anticipated to grow in next 10-15 yrs, that should take care of my kids college education.

- Ninth thing: By this time my old car, which is about 10 yrs old now is no longer in the top shape. So, we are saving these days to buy a nice car that would last us another 10 yrs and will be big enough to accomodate our whole family.

- Ten thing: Next thing after that will be move to a bigger house in the same neighbourhood and pay it off before I am 40.

And lastly, I do not make more than an average person. And for all the skeptics and those who think we might have lived miserably, my first car was a BMW, I put my wife through a GREAT college and send my kids to a private school. And yes, all this time I maximized my 401k investment, which I have been growing with a decent rate of return every year.

I by no means is the best financial planner, but here is what I will tell others. Always buy things that you enjoy and are durable (10 yr rule is a good one) and always do it one step at a time. And do not listen to anyone. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it so hard to understand why anyone would have a hard time saving in this GREAT country. This by no means is an attack on people who are sufferring through bad debts, it is by all means my lack of insight. Here is how I see things.</p>
<p>I immigrated to this wonderful country about 10 yrs back. I landed here when I was 23 with literally nothing but education. Got my first job and here is the plan I stuck to.</p>
<p>- First thing: Took public transport to save enough money for 6-8 months to buy a car. Bought a nice car with most down and a 5 yr. loan on remainder</p>
<p>- Second thing: Paid off the rest of the car loan in 6-8 months.</p>
<p>- Third thing: Saved for a couple year and bought a house in the country where I come from.</p>
<p>- Fourth thing: Saved for another 3 years and bought a house in a good neighbourhood (best public school, great community, close to all major highways and public transport) which will be enough for my family for next 5-6 years. Took a loan on remainder.</p>
<p>- Fifth thing: Worked my rear off to pay off remainder of the home loan in 3 years.</p>
<p>- Sixth thing: All the this time, I will save money for the next step and use it to purchase something. So, yes there were times when I had less than 1000.00 of total savings. SCARY!!</p>
<p>- Seventh thing: Saved enough to last for 1 year. Kept this money aside and forgot about it. Will never touch it unless there is a real emergency.</p>
<p>- Eight thing: All this time my first home (outside US) has tripled in value. With the rate at which it is anticipated to grow in next 10-15 yrs, that should take care of my kids college education.</p>
<p>- Ninth thing: By this time my old car, which is about 10 yrs old now is no longer in the top shape. So, we are saving these days to buy a nice car that would last us another 10 yrs and will be big enough to accomodate our whole family.</p>
<p>- Ten thing: Next thing after that will be move to a bigger house in the same neighbourhood and pay it off before I am 40.</p>
<p>And lastly, I do not make more than an average person. And for all the skeptics and those who think we might have lived miserably, my first car was a BMW, I put my wife through a GREAT college and send my kids to a private school. And yes, all this time I maximized my 401k investment, which I have been growing with a decent rate of return every year.</p>
<p>I by no means is the best financial planner, but here is what I will tell others. Always buy things that you enjoy and are durable (10 yr rule is a good one) and always do it one step at a time. And do not listen to anyone. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great information and I definitely agree - especially with the tax deductions.  Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information and I definitely agree - especially with the tax deductions.  Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie,

Having never been in your situation, I don't feel qualified to give any advice, but I can at least encourage you to hang in there and get it paid off. If I were in your shoes, I would definitely call &lt;a href="http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/cms/new_to_dave_2926.htmlc?ictid=new_to_dave" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dave Ramsey&lt;/a&gt; and ask him.

--Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie,</p>
<p>Having never been in your situation, I don&#8217;t feel qualified to give any advice, but I can at least encourage you to hang in there and get it paid off. If I were in your shoes, I would definitely call <a href="http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/cms/new_to_dave_2926.htmlc?ictid=new_to_dave" rel="nofollow">Dave Ramsey</a> and ask him.</p>
<p>&#8211;Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dee!

At our current rate, our home will be fully paid for in 5 years and 1 month from now (we've been in the house for 4 years and 3 months). Currently we are making double principle payments every month on our 15-year loan. It has taken pretty serious discipline to do it, but we are certain it will be worth it in the long run.

A few years ago, back when the principle portion of our minimum payment was lower, we would make triple and even quadruple principle payments. That's quite a bit harder now, since our minimum principle payment has naturally gone up significantly since then, but we still dump lots of money in every month.

I'm just glad we bought our first house in a time when interest rates were in the single digits as opposed to your generation, paying 15% interest or more for their first home. I don't think we could have made nearly the progress we have with triple the interest every month.

--Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dee!</p>
<p>At our current rate, our home will be fully paid for in 5 years and 1 month from now (we&#8217;ve been in the house for 4 years and 3 months). Currently we are making double principle payments every month on our 15-year loan. It has taken pretty serious discipline to do it, but we are certain it will be worth it in the long run.</p>
<p>A few years ago, back when the principle portion of our minimum payment was lower, we would make triple and even quadruple principle payments. That&#8217;s quite a bit harder now, since our minimum principle payment has naturally gone up significantly since then, but we still dump lots of money in every month.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just glad we bought our first house in a time when interest rates were in the single digits as opposed to your generation, paying 15% interest or more for their first home. I don&#8217;t think we could have made nearly the progress we have with triple the interest every month.</p>
<p>&#8211;Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Dave, I have unfortunately gotten into one of these home equity loans which was a "BAD IDEA!" I was actually talked into it over the phone, it is now my only "mortgage loan", the interest has sky rocketed, I have fallen behind in my payments and am now doing a "workout" with the company to get back on track! Then I don't know how to get out of it because it has now affected my credit! I am only paying interest at this time and no principle! Any suggestions for help?????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Dave, I have unfortunately gotten into one of these home equity loans which was a &#8220;BAD IDEA!&#8221; I was actually talked into it over the phone, it is now my only &#8220;mortgage loan&#8221;, the interest has sky rocketed, I have fallen behind in my payments and am now doing a &#8220;workout&#8221; with the company to get back on track! Then I don&#8217;t know how to get out of it because it has now affected my credit! I am only paying interest at this time and no principle! Any suggestions for help?????????????</p>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
Dan would love how smart you are about the home loan.  Good for you.  The ideal thing is to pay more than you have to so you can get your loan down even quicker.  Then it does b/come your money when the house is paid off! We are expats living in Russia and some people feel they need to own a home for a tax break when they live over seas.  You can have a tax break...for a price!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
Dan would love how smart you are about the home loan.  Good for you.  The ideal thing is to pay more than you have to so you can get your loan down even quicker.  Then it does b/come your money when the house is paid off! We are expats living in Russia and some people feel they need to own a home for a tax break when they live over seas.  You can have a tax break&#8230;for a price!</p>
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